Christian businesses V. Pro-Gay agenda

The 1st Amendment within the United States Bill of Rights it says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.” I don’t know about you, but when I read “prohibiting the free exercise thereof”, that, in my understanding, would protect a Christian business from HAVING to do business with particular people, based on the business owners religious beliefs. Apparently not, as we continue to twist and re-shape our U.S. Constitution to mean whatever we want it to mean. Here you are people, the government’s pro-gay agenda is taking root and persecuting Christians in North America, though they say they want equality, they show particular allegiance to institutions-which not only shatter there equality statement, but prove the the body of Christ throughout the United States is silent.

Sweet Cakes Bakery in the state of Oregon is closing its doors due to incessant persecution by militant gay opponents. Aaron and Melissa Klein (Bakery owners) were approached by a lesbian couple who were looking for their “wedding” cake. Aaron Klein was quoted as saying, “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman,”. Klein continues, “I don’t want to help somebody celebrate a commitment to a lifetime of sin.” You would think that the lesbian couple would move on and try there crack at another bakery to celebrate there sin, but what came was an barrage of protests that led to the bakery’s closing. The lesbian couple filed a discrimination complaint to the labor bureau, in were aided by the LBGT community, which went up-in-arms and threatened the Klein’s and even there business vendors.

What was Mr. Klein’s response to all of this? You may assume that, as a business owner, he would be frantic and clawing at life for his shop to stay open, but he said, “If we lose, I guess the business goes under,” he continues, “It’s a small price to pay for standing for truth and traditional marriage.” When our faith goes beyond the Church walls, it comes down to the nitty-gritty. Will you fight for Christ or won’t you? In this couple’s case, they stood firm in there service unto the LORD. “We are not called to take the easy way out as Christians,” Klein said. “We’re called to stand for truth.” A well said statement, by this man of God.

The question remains, how can we respond as the body of Christ? It gnaws at my brain and my heart to witness the direction that this country-which was founded upon Christian principles-is going, and what little I see the church of Jesus Christ doing about it. Is our faith really that weak? Do we really love the world that much that we, as servants of God, will not even lift our voices against the persecution that we, in the United States, are receiving? Mr. Klein, a hero of faith in my eyes, said “This is a fight that’s been coming for a while,” he continues, “Be prepared to take a stand. Hopefully, the church will wake up and understand that we are under attack right now.” Those are words that I will truly dwell on in these dark days, and I think that they will only get darker as come ever-closer to the return of our Savior, LORD Jesus Christ.

The statement that I’d like all of you to dwell on is, as lamps on the stand (Luke 8:16-18), you are to illuminate wherever you are. When we sit quietly watching from the wayside as the world self-implodes, we do not embody the righteousness of God. Rather, we hold on to comfort and self-gratification, while we were called to so much more. Men and women of the LORD, pick up your crosses as follow Jesus Christ! The burden of Jesus Christ is easy, and it is light. He walks with you wherever you go. Please be the difference-wherever you are. Honor God by upholding His precepts in love. If you do not, then there will be only eternal damnation for those who were never reached, while it should’ve been our job to reach them. God bless you.



  1. theirishatheist · · Reply

    How awful the persecution of Christians by the gays is. A business applied for a business license from the government, signed a contract to abide by the rules necessary to utilise that license, broke the rules and paid the consequences.

    It’s so much worse than the persecution American gays have endured at the hands of Christians, like the murders of Mathew Shepard, Marc Carson, Charlie Howard, and Rebecca Wright, and dozens of others. Or the conversion camps that attached electrodes to the genitals of children and shocked them in order to cure them of their ‘perversion.’ Or the laws banning them from teaching in public schools or serving their nation with dignity and honour. Or the litany of vile names, accusations, and lies thrown at them by Christians every day.

    But what would I know? I grew up in a nation where Christian terrorists butchered thousands of my people and nearly killed me when I was a ten year old child. I certainly wouldn’t know anything about the type of persecution Christians can inflict on others.

    Truly, your suffering is without measure.

    1. I’m glad you agree. Thank you. 🙂

      1. theirishatheist · ·

        Congratulations on totally missing the point of the comment. Do I need to spell it out for you?

        You are not persecuted. Neither was the bakery. They broke a law which states that businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. They paid the consequences for being bigots.

        And they were bigots. Their denial of services had nothing to do with their Christian faith. After the controversy, they agreed to bake cakes for a Wiccan celebration, a divorce celebration, a baby shower for unwed parents, and a stem-cell research party. So not only are they bigoted, they are hypocrites.

        And your lamenting of the consequences does a disservice to your faith just as your complete inability to come up with any sort of rational defense is does a disservice to your intelligence.

      2. Would the 1st Amendment not protect the Klein family? And do you think the law that they may or may not have broken compares to the law of sin before a holy God? Homosexuality, amidst adultery, false idols, other things you make a god (I.e. yourself, others), lying, etc. The law of God is more important to you than a law written by men my friend. I pray you see that-regardless of your past and those people that truly hurt you, Jesus Christ is a loving God that desires a relationship with you.

      3. theirishatheist · ·

        It protects the Klein family no more than I would be protected if I refused you a service because you are a Christian. The First Amendment protects individuals who chose to practise their faith as well as protecting churches from government interference (and vice versa). It does not, and never has, given someone the license to break the law.

        And no offense, but I don’t but much stock in a god who’s ultimatum is ‘love me or roast alive for all eternity.’ That’s not love. In the civilised world, it’s called emotional and verbal abuse.

      4. Well, unfortunately the U.S. does a good job at hamstringing many churches, which could definitely classify as breaking the 1st Amendment. But the Constitution/Bill of Rights seems to be interchangeable depending on people’s opinions-which doesn’t hold weight to me if its subjective. The Constitution didn’t see homosexuality as a acceptable practice when it was written, and it shouldn’t, frankly-like any other sin.

        But what mind of God would you like to have, if you don’t mind me asking?

      5. theirishatheist · ·

        You don’t believe that the Constitution should see any sin as an acceptable practise? Well, that eliminates the First Amendment entirely, because in case you didn’t know your religion considered worshiping other gods or no god to be a sin. It also eliminates the free speech part of the First Amendment because speaking out against your god is also considered a sin.

        So I guess the lesson here is that you believe in the First Amendment, but only when it applies to people like you.

        I’m assuming you meant to ask what KIND of God I would like to have. I am very happy without one, thank you.

        P.S. If we followed everything the original drafters of the Constitution intended, black people would still be 3-5ths of a person.

      6. Comparing the Constitution to God’s law is like comparing a pebble to the Himalayas. The Constitution was/is an amazing and important document to our American heritage. The Christian men and women who left Europe to come to North America were leaving because they were being forced to pay tax and share to the Roman Catholic Church’s doctrine, which went against what the Bible said. To come here and build a country with Godly principles was monumental! All sin is condemned by the Bible and that’s what fueled our fore Father’s documentation of the Constitution.

        Regarding black slavery, that was not condoned by God whatsoever, but it was a way of the time in the OT/NT. when it occurred in the Americas, it didn’t make it anymore right. Homosexuality cannot be compared to black equality because you’re born black, your not born gay. It’s not even on the same level.

      7. theirishatheist · ·

        You’re not born Christian either. Does that mean I can discriminate against you for your religion?

        Also, the European immigrants who settled North America due to religious reasons came first from England. Which was Protestant. Pretty sad when the Irish immigrant knows more about your nation’s history than you do.

        As for slavery, God has always been pretty cool with it. Read all of Leviticus sometime, not just the verses about gay people.

      8. Good morning friend! I pray that you slept well! 🙂

        We aren’t born Christian, but we are born sinners. The curse of sin by Adam and Eve secures our entire human race to always be fallen in sinful nature. So this, since our sin includes all that I mentioned before, we are already self-condemned. That’s why Jesus Christ came into humanity and died for us, so that we would not have to stay condemned in sin. I’m thankful for year conversations, and I really appreciate your passion from all that you’ve seen, but I pray that your heart opens to the truth of Christ and not to the fallen ways of men using religion for personal gain.

      9. theirishatheist · ·

        People are born sinners, but gay people aren’t born gay…

        Keep contradicting yourself, it’s amusing to watch.

      10. It’s never been proven that people are genetically born gay, but born sinners? Have you ever had to teach a kid to do bad things? No that comes instinctively. Why, because that’s our nature as fallen people with minds that desires to gratify our urges. Homosexual tendencies are underlying urges in mankind’s flesh, just like any other sin that we love to commit.

      11. theirishatheist · ·

        Yes, your brothers and sisters in Christ sure know how to show love to others.

        You are defending the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa. These are the people you are defending.

      12. Upholding the sanctity of marriage is wrong? Marriage will always be defined as between a man and a women, regardless of what man tries to do to it. God created it between opposite sexes. Anything beside that is not of the LORD. I’m thankful that there is a couple who is standing firm on that truth.

      13. theirishatheist · ·

        I take it you didn’t actually click on the link showing what they posted about the controversy on their Facebook page that I included in the last comment.

    2. What you went through is utterly horrible, and I don’t think that anyone could deny that. To be out through what you endured is surely hard to comprehend, but you got through it, thank God!

      Unfortunately, what you’re speaking if is in no relation to biblical Christianity. Jesus Christ came to save sinners-that includes you and me. He are with them, when that was unheard of to the hymn culture. He built relationships with sinners and brought them to repentance from sin. I’d love for an opportunity to meet with you and break bread with you if you lived in NYC. I’m here for anything you’d like to inquire about or vent about even! But know that homosexuality is condemned, same as lying, adultery, murder, greed and a host of other sins (Romans 1). So don’t worry, you’re not alone when you struggle with sin, but know that it is not a practice that honors the One that created you. I’d be more worried about my eternal state than what anyone says on WordPress, and I pray that you consider that, because this life is momentary while heaven or hell is eternal. I pray God softens your heart to hear His loving message of salvation.

      1. theirishatheist · ·

        Ah yes, the typical “If you support gay people, you must be gay” argument. I certainly didn’t see that one coming. “rolls eyes”

      2. I didn’t assume that you were gay, I read your post and it said “my people” which caused me to believe that you were gay. That’s all. I didn’t make assumptions. 🙂

      3. theirishatheist · ·

        “My people” referred to the Irish, not my friends and loved ones in the LBGT community. I survived the Troubles of Ireland and all that the Christians did to us.

      4. Oh really!? Wow, then we have more things in common! Not only are we both sinners, but we are both Irish!

        My mothers family comes from Cork. Where do you come from? And just to let you know Roman Catholicism-which is what I believe you meant to refer to as Christianity, is indeed not. Roman Catholicism is a pagan spin of Christianity, amidst many other pagan beliefs, so don’t confide the two-PLEASE! I was raised Catholic and left when I actually read the Bible. Too many contradictions. Jesus Christ came to save sinners, not condemn them-the law does that to us already. All you need to do is accept thy you are at enmity with God because of your sin, and are in need of saving. If you put your faith in Jesus Christ who died for you on the cross at Calvary 2,000 years ago, and believe that He died for your sins and rose again on the 3rd day, then you will be saved! I’d love to answer any questions you have! 🙂

      5. theirishatheist · ·

        No. We are not both Irish. You are (I’m assuming) an American, who was born in America. I am an Irishman who was born and raised in County Galway. You do not have the right to call yourself Irish either by birth or by citizenship. You have no idea what being Irish even means. Your people are not mine, and we are nothing alike.

        Oh, so you think the Protestants of Ireland were better than the Catholics? Protestant terrorists slaughtered us just like the Catholics did, with guns and knives and bombs There is no difference between the two, Protestant bullets kill just as well as Catholic ones did.

        Rest assured, I am well educated in your religion, both Catholicism and Protestantism. You are not going to ‘convert’ me, so don’t waste your effort. Your brothers and sisters in Christ have already done enough to the people I love, and yes, that includes the gay ones.

      6. Brothers and sisters of mine in Jesus Christ don’t kill homosexuals. We don’t kill anyone. We welcome them in our homes and provide for them if they need so they can see the overwhelming love of God.

        I can’t claim to be a pure Irishman but I do have history there. I’m a 3rd generation and want to know more about my roots. I love being linked to Ireland. What you saw was not christianity. What happened to you, if I may ask?

      7. theirishatheist · ·

        Except for people like Mathew Shepard, who was murdered by two Christians.

        Having genetic roots in Ireland is a lot different than being Irish, and doesn’t link you to us in any way.

        If you truly want to know, the first two posts of my own blog will tell you. They’re the ones entitled ‘Epistle the First’ and’ Omagh.’ I only have four posts, so they’re not hard to find.

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